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Tzidkat'cha in the presence of a mourner

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If one is in shul on a Shabbos afternoon and a mourner (who is in his 7 days) is davening there, does the minyan say Tzidkat'cha?

My logic -- during the week,one does not say tachanun in the house of a mourner (or, if the mourner must daven in shul, in the shul). My siddur says that we don't say Tzaidkat'cha on a Shabbat that, if it were a weekday,w e would not say tachanun on. Not saying tzidkat'cha is therefore not a demonstration of public mourning by the mourner (which is not allwoed on Shabbat) but a reaction to a person's presence.

If a mourner's saying kaddish is not a public display of mourning (nor would changing seats in shul even though it is driven by mourning) why would NOT saying the prayer be a problem?

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during the week,one does not say tachanun in the house of a mourner (or, if the mourner must daven in shul, in the shul).

(Emphasis added to the key phrase.)

Except, that's not the case, at least in my Shul. A Chassan during the week of Sheva Brachos, or a same-day Bris (father, Sandek or Mohel, even if the Bris is not going to take place in Shul) cancels Tachanun for everyone. But a mourner during Shiva does not. There are certainly cases where a mourner Davens in Shul during Shiva, but that doesn't turn the Shul into a Shiva house. In addition to not affecting Tachanun for everyone else, the mourner can't lead the Davening. The mourner can attend, can be counted for a Minyan, and can say Kaddish, but it is still a public Minyan and not the same status as a "Shiva Minyan".

Tzidkat'cha on Shabbos should be no different than Tachanun on a weekday. I would expect, but have no personal experience, that if a mourner had a Shiva Minyan on Shabbos afternoon (not the usual practice in my area, but certainly can be done) that nobody would say Tzidkat'cha in the Shiva house.

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