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during the week,one does not say tachanun in the house of a mourner (or, if the mourner must daven in shul, in the shul). (Emphasis added to the key phrase.) Except, that's not the case, at least...
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manassehkatz
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2023-06-26T23:44:43Z (11 months ago)
- *during the week,one does not say tachanun in the house of a mourner (**or, if the mourner must daven in shul, in the shul**).*
- (*Emphasis added to the key phrase.*)
- Except, that's not the case, at least in my Shul. A Chassan during the week of Sheva Brachos, or a same-day Bris (father, Sandek or Mohel, even if the Bris is not going to take place in Shul) cancels Tachanun for everyone. But a mourner during Shiva does not. There are certainly cases where a mourner Davens in Shul during Shiva, but that doesn't turn the Shul into a Shiva house. In addition to not affecting Tachanun for everyone else, the mourner can't lead the Davening. The mourner can attend, can be counted for a Minyan, and can say Kaddish, but it is still a public Minyan and not the same status as a "Shiva Minyan".
Tzidkat'cha on Shabbos should be no different than Tachanun on a weekday. I would expect, but have no personal experience, that if a mourner had a Shiva Minyan on Shabbos afternoon (not the usual practice in my area, but certainly can be done) that nobody would not say Tzidkat'cha in the Shiva house.
- *during the week,one does not say tachanun in the house of a mourner (**or, if the mourner must daven in shul, in the shul**).*
- (*Emphasis added to the key phrase.*)
- Except, that's not the case, at least in my Shul. A Chassan during the week of Sheva Brachos, or a same-day Bris (father, Sandek or Mohel, even if the Bris is not going to take place in Shul) cancels Tachanun for everyone. But a mourner during Shiva does not. There are certainly cases where a mourner Davens in Shul during Shiva, but that doesn't turn the Shul into a Shiva house. In addition to not affecting Tachanun for everyone else, the mourner can't lead the Davening. The mourner can attend, can be counted for a Minyan, and can say Kaddish, but it is still a public Minyan and not the same status as a "Shiva Minyan".
- Tzidkat'cha on Shabbos should be no different than Tachanun on a weekday. I would expect, but have no personal experience, that if a mourner had a Shiva Minyan on Shabbos afternoon (not the usual practice in my area, but certainly can be done) that nobody would say Tzidkat'cha in the Shiva house.
#1: Initial revision
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manassehkatz
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2023-06-26T22:06:48Z (11 months ago)
*during the week,one does not say tachanun in the house of a mourner (**or, if the mourner must daven in shul, in the shul**).* (*Emphasis added to the key phrase.*) Except, that's not the case, at least in my Shul. A Chassan during the week of Sheva Brachos, or a same-day Bris (father, Sandek or Mohel, even if the Bris is not going to take place in Shul) cancels Tachanun for everyone. But a mourner during Shiva does not. There are certainly cases where a mourner Davens in Shul during Shiva, but that doesn't turn the Shul into a Shiva house. In addition to not affecting Tachanun for everyone else, the mourner can't lead the Davening. The mourner can attend, can be counted for a Minyan, and can say Kaddish, but it is still a public Minyan and not the same status as a "Shiva Minyan". Tzidkat'cha on Shabbos should be no different than Tachanun on a weekday. I would expect, but have no personal experience, that if a mourner had a Shiva Minyan on Shabbos afternoon (not the usual practice in my area, but certainly can be done) that nobody would not say Tzidkat'cha in the Shiva house.