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During Maggid during the Pesach Seder, there is one point where we say דם ואש ותימרות עשן Blood, fire, and columns of smoke (ArtScroll Machzor translation) This is a quote from Yoel 3:3. A...
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Mithical
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2021-04-02T09:39:08Z (about 3 years ago)
Why do we remove wine from our cups at "דם ואש ותימרות עשן"?
During Maggid during the Pesach Seder, there is one point where we say > דם ואש ותימרות עשן > > Blood, fire, and columns of smoke <sub>(ArtScroll Machzor translation)</sub> This is a quote from Yoel 3:3. At this point, we remove some wine / grape juice from our cups, one for each phrase (at least, the Ashkenazim do; I don't know about other customs). This feels... almost like a joke to me. The first word here is "דם", blood, which is the same as the first plague - which we list a few lines later, removing wine at each mention of the plagues. Removing wine here at the Yoel quote seems like a false start; it starts with "blood", so we'll remove wine like we're listing the plagues... but oops, it's not the plagues! So why do we *actually* remove wine here, since I'm fairly confident it's unlikely to be a false start that got ingrained in tradition?