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Why is honey considered kosher?

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Why is honey considered kosher?

What I found on the net was an article that states that while bees (as any insects) are non-kosher, honey is not a body product of bees, but only processed (from collected pollen to honey) by enzymes from bees.

Looks good so far.

But in ancient times, how would people know? They sure knew about fermentation, but surely not about enzymes, even less what they do to convert pollen to honey.

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I learned that it was because the text refers to honey and makes an exception. Therefore the knowledg... (8 comments)
I learned that it was because the text refers to honey and makes an exception. Therefore the knowledg...
rosends‭ wrote 11 months ago

I learned that it was because the text refers to honey and makes an exception. Therefore the knowledge of science becomes immaterial.

Monica Cellio‭ wrote 11 months ago

I thought the rabbis understood that to be date honey, not bee honey?

watchmaker‭ wrote 11 months ago

Monica Cellio‭ Monica Cellio‭: that would explain things, but coming time when bee honey was available, sure some rabbis would have raised doubts and spent some effort to clear it, one way or the other.

watchmaker‭ wrote 11 months ago

Monica Cellio‭ I was raised Christian, so my knowledge of The Text comes form bible translations only. Samson's Riddle ( https://biblehub.com/kjv/judges/14.htm ) describes bee honey to be known quite early.

Monica Cellio‭ wrote 11 months ago

That's a good point; I had forgotten about that swarm of bees (Rashi says it was a beehive).

watchmaker‭ wrote 11 months ago · edited 11 months ago

Following the stated reasoning, Civet coffee ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kopi_luwak ) would be kosher? Or should I ask that in a separare question?

Monica Cellio‭ wrote 11 months ago

That is a very interesting question that I would ask separately. Milk of a non-kosher animal isn't kosher, but bee honey and, it appears, civet coffee is excreted, not milk, and there is the precedent from bees. I don't know what other considerations apply, but if you ask a new question specifically about civet coffee, I hope our community can help find out!

watchmaker‭ wrote 11 months ago

rosends‭ do you have any links to citations?