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Closed as too generic by Isaac Moses‭ on Aug 25, 2020 at 20:00

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I placed three questions here and they were all downvoted almost at the same time. That proves to me although not conclusively that they were the same person. I notice this site is not progressing at all. You are not getting questions or answers. I of course withdrew all my questions. For a start I think any downvoter has to give his reasons at least to the moderator. You are not yet big enough and never will be if you just start refusing questions which this in effect is. I asked it on the other site and immediately got a comment to further explain my question. It was then mentioned as having been asked previously and asking me to withdraw it. Again it was downvoted there most likely by the same person who did it here, but the previous time it had been asked it recieved fourteen upvotes. Someone here is playing you up and you did mention you had a troll but youre doing nothing about it. The other site also has a chat which you dont seem to have which is not voted on. At least it gives you a chance to 'talk' in peace. The first way to build up your site is to get people to come and then decide further. You seem to have decided everything in advance before you got people to come and then letting them decide. I would also say you should stop downvoting questions at least till they had some upvotes if you want to increase question traffic and never leave them with just downvotes. I suppose that goes for answers as well. I also have my other reason for saying this which I have already mentioned and wont repeat again here. I am quite prepared to 'bombard' you with questions and answers on condition I am shown common courtesy. I am sure others expect the same. I cant see for the present that you should be going anywhere and it is a pity because if you really wanted you could. It is just a matter of thinking of the people whom you want to join your site I should add that there should be a difference between good questions or answers which are just not written 'properly' and those which are not good. I am quite sure and I suppose others are as well that what I write is good, but I cant always be sure that it isnt written 'properly'. Meaning written in such a way that everyone can understand it. Somehow someone should rewrite it but that should not be a reason for a downvote. You should make a new classification and two kinds of downvote. One where you think it is wrong and one where you cant understand it. Just downvoting because you cant understand it helps no one. Not everyone can understand everything and not everything can be explained to everyone. But if it is correct that means that those who can understand it think so, then it again should not be downvoted. I am an original thinker and my posts will confirm that, that means I make chiddushim and what are called yesodos, I can understand that not everyone is likely to agree to them. But at least I expect they understand them before they dont agree to them.You are not blind to the fact that this site is not getting traffic, but you are deaf to new ideas of increasing it. I have suggested that you only downvote where the post will not result in a negative vote. I see no reason why not, and nothing you have said addresses this. I have already given two reasons for this.If you dont understand I am quite prepared to repeat it in more detail but you would rather this site died than make any improvement however trivial. I wish monica cello would be reading this.I am sure she is interested in keeping this site open whereas no one else seems to be. I can also think of innovations which would make your site better than the other but with your heads in the sand there seems no chance of that. You are resistant to change, and would rather the ship go down which you admit it is doing. A lot of work has been put into the site but you care nothing for that. I will put this into an answer instead of splitting it up into comments or I can put it into the question. I have asked on the site what can be wrong with a dikduk question no answer! I am not new to you, you can see my posts on the other site under the same name.But you prefer to make a no entry here for everyone.Since you named me I will respond. The site is doing well. It's growing. Quality is more important than quantity. I'd like to see more good questions and community engagement to improve ones that are weak and can be fixed.I have suggested how to get more questions which would not decrease quality. So far no one has replied to that. There is another thing which you Monica Cellio may not be aware or. All the others are specialist sites and one has to have an interest in them to belong to them. I have checked the other sites and this one has many, many more downvotes than any others. — interested 2 minutes ago

The latest question on here is what does the talmud say about a certain subject. There is nothing wrong with the question but since the talmud has over 2000 pages one can have 2000 questions like this. I dont consider questions like what does the talmud say, is what viewers really want. They are just too simple to ask and answer. And people expect something different from a site like this. In plain English I dont consider it a quality question although there is nothing wrong with it. I would also like to add that taking posts from SA even though it may be legal I dont consider ethical. To me it is no different than stealing.I notice Racquetball has 44 downvotes on 4 posts. Dont tell me this is normal. I havent bothered looking at the posts but there must be something wrong for someone to amass so many downvotes on four posts. The moderators have a duty to help posters. They cant be doing it if this happens.

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There are many possible reasons for downvotes.

A single downvote really just means that someone didn't like the post; disagreed with it; felt (justified or not) that it was wrong; difficult to read; showed a lack of research; or any of a phletora of other possible reasons, some of which are going to vary between different communities and from one person to the next.

On any platform where posts can be voted on in both directions, there are always going to be posts that are voted on the "wrong" way. I know it's easy to just say, but you shouldn't take that personally. You might have received downvotes on all three of your questions in short succession; I checked, and while they were about different topics (none of which I am particularly qualified to answer questions about), they were quite similar in style. It's possible that someone simply saw on the front page that they were posted in short succession by a new user, checked out all of them, and felt similarly about all three of them. It probably wouldn't take many minutes for someone to reach that conclusion, which would make the votes appear to be in short succession even if the posts were independently voted on.

Now, if one's posts consistently receive multiple downvotes each, that might be cause for some concern. However, that does not necessarily translate to some variation of "I'm right and you're wrong, you just need to learn why I am right".

There have been numerous discussions on Some Other Q&A network that downvoters should be required to disclose the reason for a downvote. There are numerous problems with such proposals, not least that they require that the voter identifies themselves publicly (while they may prefer to remain anonymous), the possibility of ending up in an argument about why that vote shouldn't have been cast or should have been different, and that there's no way to programmatically determine whether any "reason" for a downvote is the actual reason for that downvote. If someone wants to explain a vote in more detail, nothing prevents them from leaving a comment on the post when voting as it is.

I have received numerous downvotes on posts here and elsewhere. Sometimes people will say why; sometimes not. If there's no comment clearly associated with a downvote, I generally try to look over the post with a critical eye to see if there's anything about it that I might be able to improve, make a better argument about, clarify, or otherwise change for the better. If I can't find that, and the user who voted doesn't say why they voted the way they did, there's little I can do, so I mostly don't lose any sleep over it. Yes, it stings a little for a moment, but in the end, it's really just Imaginary Internet Points.

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Canina‭ wrote over 3 years ago · edited over 3 years ago

@interested I haven't voted any posts down on Judaism Codidact (check my profile), so your "most likely" is already factually wrong. This isn't "my site"; if anything, it's the community's. I'm not a moderator on Judaism Codidact. I am a moderator on two other Codidact sites, but that doesn't give me any special rights or privileges on this one. And to be fair, what you posted is quite literally a wall of text, bringing up multiple different points; no, I didn't address every single one of them.

Canina‭ wrote over 3 years ago

Also, please read again what I wrote. I did not say you should not take downvotes seriously. I gave specific examples of how I take downvotes seriously. I did say that you shouldn't take downvotes personally, which isn't the same thing. As for why people downvote posts, I already gave several examples right near the top of this answer; I personally see no need to repeat those in comments. You might disagree that those are good reasons, and I can respect that, but they are all reasons.

robev‭ wrote over 3 years ago · edited over 3 years ago

"I therefore do take every downvote on this site very seriously. It is to me the same as rubbing out a word in the torah scroll which is considered one of the greatest sins" I don't think others take it that seriously, as your comparison is rather intense. Maybe that's the disconnect here?