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Rosends pointed out a related question elsewhere with a variety of answers. Here is a compilation of what I learned there and by following links from there: Chabad says (without citing a sour...
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Monica Cellio
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2023-12-25T02:15:36Z (5 months ago)
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- Rosends pointed out a related question [elsewhere](https://judaism.stackexchange.com/questions/6097/phrasing-of-refuah-prayer-when-praying-for-a-non-jew) with a variety of answers. Here is a compilation of what I learned there and by following links from there:
- - Chabad [says](https://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/761128/jewish/Why-Use-the-Mothers-Name-When-Praying-for-Someone.htm) (without citing a source): "When praying for a non-Jew, we mention the person's name along with his/her father's name." [Another source](https://asktherav.com/4498-there-is-a-giyores-in-my-community-whose-daughter-isnt-well-her-daughter-is-also-giyores-but-they-werent-nisgayer-together-her-daughter-was-nisgayer-when-she-was-18-should-this-girl-be-called-b/#more-5178) (scroll down to "davening for a gentile").
- - The two reasons the Ben Ish Chai (in Torah Lishmah) gives for praying for someone ben his mother apply to non-Jews too, so it seems proper to pray for a non-Jew using that person's mother's name.
- - Rav Soloveitchik once advised someone to use the gentile's given and family name (Shu"t Hashoel 2:pg.126). According to the answer I'm summarizing (I haven't seen the cited source), he gave the following formation for the prayer:
> אשתו" "ואמוהתיו וילדו , הוא יברך וירפא את החולה...[name of person and family name]בעבור שאנחנו מתפללים בעבורו , הקדוש ברוך הוא ימלא רחמים עליו להחלימו ולרפאותו ולהחזירו ולהחיותו וישלח לו מהרה רפואה שלמה רפואת הנפש רפואת הגוף ונאמר אמן."- - One answer suggests that the non-Jew should not be included in the communal prayer (which is for the sick of Yisrael) and should be prayed for separately.
- - One answer, cites the gemara in Berachot 34:
- > Anyone who requests mercy on behalf of another need not mention his name, as it is stated: “Please, God, heal her, please,” and he did not mention Miriam’s name.
- Rosends pointed out a related question [elsewhere](https://judaism.stackexchange.com/questions/6097/phrasing-of-refuah-prayer-when-praying-for-a-non-jew) with a variety of answers. Here is a compilation of what I learned there and by following links from there:
- - Chabad [says](https://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/761128/jewish/Why-Use-the-Mothers-Name-When-Praying-for-Someone.htm) (without citing a source): "When praying for a non-Jew, we mention the person's name along with his/her father's name." [Another source](https://asktherav.com/4498-there-is-a-giyores-in-my-community-whose-daughter-isnt-well-her-daughter-is-also-giyores-but-they-werent-nisgayer-together-her-daughter-was-nisgayer-when-she-was-18-should-this-girl-be-called-b/#more-5178) (scroll down to "davening for a gentile").
- - The two reasons the Ben Ish Chai (in Torah Lishmah) gives for praying for someone ben his mother apply to non-Jews too, so it seems proper to pray for a non-Jew using that person's mother's name.
- - Rav Soloveitchik once advised someone to use the gentile's given and family name (Shu"t Hashoel 2:pg.126). According to the answer I'm summarizing (I haven't seen the cited source), he gave the following formation for the prayer:
- > ויתפלל אברהם אל האלקים וירפא אלקים את אבימלך ואת אשתו" "ואמוהתיו וילדו , הוא יברך וירפא את החולה... [name of person and family name] בעבור שאנחנו מתפללים בעבורו , הקדוש ברוך הוא ימלא רחמים עליו להחלימו ולרפאותו ולהחזירו ולהחיותו וישלח לו מהרה רפואה שלמה רפואת הנפש רפואת הגוף ונאמר אמן."
- - One answer suggests that the non-Jew should not be included in the communal prayer (which is for the sick of Yisrael) and should be prayed for separately.
- - One answer, cites the gemara in Berachot 34:
- > Anyone who requests mercy on behalf of another need not mention his name, as it is stated: “Please, God, heal her, please,” and he did not mention Miriam’s name.
#1: Initial revision
by
Monica Cellio
·
2023-12-25T02:13:12Z (5 months ago)
Rosends pointed out a related question [elsewhere](https://judaism.stackexchange.com/questions/6097/phrasing-of-refuah-prayer-when-praying-for-a-non-jew) with a variety of answers. Here is a compilation of what I learned there and by following links from there: - Chabad [says](https://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/761128/jewish/Why-Use-the-Mothers-Name-When-Praying-for-Someone.htm) (without citing a source): "When praying for a non-Jew, we mention the person's name along with his/her father's name." [Another source](https://asktherav.com/4498-there-is-a-giyores-in-my-community-whose-daughter-isnt-well-her-daughter-is-also-giyores-but-they-werent-nisgayer-together-her-daughter-was-nisgayer-when-she-was-18-should-this-girl-be-called-b/#more-5178) (scroll down to "davening for a gentile"). - The two reasons the Ben Ish Chai (in Torah Lishmah) gives for praying for someone ben his mother apply to non-Jews too, so it seems proper to pray for a non-Jew using that person's mother's name. - Rav Soloveitchik once advised someone to use the gentile's given and family name (Shu"t Hashoel 2:pg.126). According to the answer I'm summarizing (I haven't seen the cited source), he gave the following formation for the prayer: > אשתו" "ואמוהתיו וילדו , הוא יברך וירפא את החולה... [name of person and family name] בעבור שאנחנו מתפללים בעבורו , הקדוש ברוך הוא ימלא רחמים עליו להחלימו ולרפאותו ולהחזירו ולהחיותו וישלח לו מהרה רפואה שלמה רפואת הנפש רפואת הגוף ונאמר אמן." - One answer suggests that the non-Jew should not be included in the communal prayer (which is for the sick of Yisrael) and should be prayed for separately. - One answer, cites the gemara in Berachot 34: > Anyone who requests mercy on behalf of another need not mention his name, as it is stated: “Please, God, heal her, please,” and he did not mention Miriam’s name.