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It is actually very much the same thing, at least ignoring the "sleep in Sukkah" part which most people don't do these days for a variety of reasons, especially outside of Israel. Basically, with ...
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manassehkatz
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2021-09-23T18:02:29Z (about 3 years ago)
- It is actually very much the same thing, at least ignoring the "sleep in Sukkah" part which most people don't do these days for a variety of reasons, especially outside of Israel.
- Basically, with both Sukkah and Matzah the rule is:
- * First night - required. So we *must* eat in the Sukkah on the first night of Sukkos (and second night outside Israel) and we *must* eat Matzah on the first night of Pesach (and second night outside Israel).
- * Other nights - optional. If we eat any bread on Sukkos during the rest of the holiday, we must eat it in the Sukkah (weather permitting). If we eat any bread on Pesach during the rest of the holiday, we must eat only Matzah and not Chometz.
- Both of these have very practical ramifications:
- * On Sukkos, if one does not have easy access to a Sukkah, they can avoid Halachic problems by not eating bread or large quantities of Mezonos (rice being OK).
- * On Pesach, if one has low tolerance for Matzah or does not have easy access to Matzah (hard to imagine these days, but machine-made inexpensive Matzah has not always been a thing), one can avoid Halachic problems by not eating bread or Mezonos (rice being OK for Sephardim but not Ashkenazim).
And of course there are those who make a point to eat Matzah every day of Pesach *and* to eat in the Sukkah every day of Sukkos. But the real requirement **for both** is the first day.- Lulav is a different thing altogether. It is really only first day, expanded later to the full week, *Zecher Lemikdash* (in memory of the temple), with the interesting twist that if Sukkos starts on Shabbos, we *don't* shake the Lulav on the first day and *only* the rest of the week.
- It is actually very much the same thing, at least ignoring the "sleep in Sukkah" part which most people don't do these days for a variety of reasons, especially outside of Israel.
- Basically, with both Sukkah and Matzah the rule is:
- * First night - required. So we *must* eat in the Sukkah on the first night of Sukkos (and second night outside Israel) and we *must* eat Matzah on the first night of Pesach (and second night outside Israel).
- * Other nights - optional. If we eat any bread on Sukkos during the rest of the holiday, we must eat it in the Sukkah (weather permitting). If we eat any bread on Pesach during the rest of the holiday, we must eat only Matzah and not Chometz.
- Both of these have very practical ramifications:
- * On Sukkos, if one does not have easy access to a Sukkah, they can avoid Halachic problems by not eating bread or large quantities of Mezonos (rice being OK).
- * On Pesach, if one has low tolerance for Matzah or does not have easy access to Matzah (hard to imagine these days, but machine-made inexpensive Matzah has not always been a thing), one can avoid Halachic problems by not eating bread or Mezonos (rice being OK for Sephardim but not Ashkenazim).
- And of course there are those who make a point to eat Matzah every day of Pesach *and* to eat in the Sukkah every day of Sukkos. But the real requirement **for both** is the first day. There are a number of other connections as well - e.g., in both cases the Mitzvah only applies at night (defined as Tzeis Hacochavim = 3 stars), so Kiddush on the first night(s) of Pesach and Sukkos must be at Tzeis Hacochavim, where Rosh Hashanah and the last nights of Pesach can be earlier. (First night (but not 2nd) of Shavuos has to be after Tzeis Hacochavim because of the Omer and Shemini Atzeres has to be after Tzeis Hacochavim to avoid a question of making a Leishev Basukkah).
- Lulav is a different thing altogether. It is really only first day, expanded later to the full week, *Zecher Lemikdash* (in memory of the temple), with the interesting twist that if Sukkos starts on Shabbos, we *don't* shake the Lulav on the first day and *only* the rest of the week.
#1: Initial revision
by
manassehkatz
·
2021-09-23T17:30:08Z (about 3 years ago)
It is actually very much the same thing, at least ignoring the "sleep in Sukkah" part which most people don't do these days for a variety of reasons, especially outside of Israel. Basically, with both Sukkah and Matzah the rule is: * First night - required. So we *must* eat in the Sukkah on the first night of Sukkos (and second night outside Israel) and we *must* eat Matzah on the first night of Pesach (and second night outside Israel). * Other nights - optional. If we eat any bread on Sukkos during the rest of the holiday, we must eat it in the Sukkah (weather permitting). If we eat any bread on Pesach during the rest of the holiday, we must eat only Matzah and not Chometz. Both of these have very practical ramifications: * On Sukkos, if one does not have easy access to a Sukkah, they can avoid Halachic problems by not eating bread or large quantities of Mezonos (rice being OK). * On Pesach, if one has low tolerance for Matzah or does not have easy access to Matzah (hard to imagine these days, but machine-made inexpensive Matzah has not always been a thing), one can avoid Halachic problems by not eating bread or Mezonos (rice being OK for Sephardim but not Ashkenazim). And of course there are those who make a point to eat Matzah every day of Pesach *and* to eat in the Sukkah every day of Sukkos. But the real requirement **for both** is the first day. Lulav is a different thing altogether. It is really only first day, expanded later to the full week, *Zecher Lemikdash* (in memory of the temple), with the interesting twist that if Sukkos starts on Shabbos, we *don't* shake the Lulav on the first day and *only* the rest of the week.