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If someone has fulfilled an obligation (like kiddush), can he then do it for others?

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I had been under the impression that somebody who is not personally obligated in a mitzvah (or maybe specifically a b'racha?) cannot do it on behalf of someone else. This is one of the usual explanations for why a woman can't lead (most) prayer in mixed groups, for example -- she's not obligated so men who are obligated can't fulfill that obligation through her. My question isn't about women and prayer; that's just background for why I thought the general rule is as I said.

I have heard an unsourced claim that this isn't necessarily true for kiddush -- that somebody can make kiddush and then make it again on behalf of others. I'm not asking about cases where people merely help others fulfill a commandment, such as by guiding them through putting on t'fillin or waving the lulav. I'm asking about cases where someone is fulfilling an obligation through someone else.

When can someone who has already fulfilled an obligation repeat the action so that somebody else can fulfill it through him? Is the distinction not about whether you've fulfilled it but whether you were obligated, and somebody could in principle make kiddush, or say the amidah, or count the omer many times in a single day for different listeners?

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https://www.torahweb.org/torah/1999/moadim/rtwe_shavuot.html (1 comment)
Keywords to search for to answer this question: "ערבות" and "יצא מוציא". (1 comment)
I recall learning that it is permissible for someone who already made kiddush to make kiddush (and dr... (1 comment)
http://westmountshul.com/documents/newpdf/ManagingYourMitzvosClass3Kiddush.pdf page 2 item 5? (1 comment)

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