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Q&A Why is מוציא לחם more of a problem than מתיר אסורים or מלביש ערמים?

I understand that grammatically it is more correct to leave out the definite article, which is why Rava starts out saying that everyone agrees that מוציא is valid. However, we would rather add the ...

posted 3y ago by simyou‭

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#1: Initial revision by user avatar simyou‭ · 2021-02-15T19:21:48Z (about 3 years ago)
I understand that grammatically it is more correct to leave out the definite article, which is why Rava starts out saying that everyone agrees that מוציא is valid. However, we would rather add the "ה" to prevent slurring the words together. For this we would need a source that even with the article it would still be understood in the past tense.
The Rabbannan say that המוציא is also good, quoting the Passuk ״הַמּוֹצִיא לְךָ מַיִם מִצּוּר הַחַלָּמִישׁ״', so it is preferred because it prevent slurring. Rabbi Nechemia says that since המוציא is also used for present tense in ״הַמּוֹצִיא אֶתְכֶם מִתַּחַת סִבְלוֹת מִצְרָיִם״ and this is the primary grammatical usage, it should not be used for the bracha.