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Shulchan Aruch, Orach Chayim 587:3, cites a view that if someone heard half of a double-long t'ki'a (long shofar blast) in a way that was effective but the other half in an invalid way, then he's n...
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msh210
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2020-09-02T18:04:31Z (about 4 years ago)
working around https://judaism.codidact.com/questions/277878
_Shulchan Aruch_, _Orach Chayim_ 587:3, cites a view that if someone heard half of a double-long _t'ki'a_ (long _shofar_ blast) in a way that was effective but the other half in an invalid way, then he's not considered to have heard a _t'ki'a_ for fulfilling-the-command purposes.- Does that apply to a _t'ru'a_ (series of mini-blasts) also? Suppose someone blew twice as many as needed, and someone else heard only half of them validly. On the one hand, it counts as one sound just as a _t'ki'a_ does, so perhaps one needs to hear its start and end just as he does a _t'ki'a_'s. On the other, since physically it's a series of short blasts, maybe hearing the start and end of each of those blasts is enough and one doesn't need to hear the start and end of the _t'ru'a_.
- Do any halachic sources discuss this?
- [_Shulchan Aruch_, _Orach Chayim_ 587:3](//www.sefaria.org/Shulchan_Arukh,_Orach_Chayim.587.3?utm_source=judaism.codidact.com), cites a view that if someone heard half of a double-long _t'ki'a_ (long _shofar_ blast) in a way that was effective but the other half in an invalid way, then he's not considered to have heard a _t'ki'a_ for fulfilling-the-command purposes.
- Does that apply to a _t'ru'a_ (series of mini-blasts) also? Suppose someone blew twice as many as needed, and someone else heard only half of them validly. On the one hand, it counts as one sound just as a _t'ki'a_ does, so perhaps one needs to hear its start and end just as he does a _t'ki'a_'s. On the other, since physically it's a series of short blasts, maybe hearing the start and end of each of those blasts is enough and one doesn't need to hear the start and end of the _t'ru'a_.
- Do any halachic sources discuss this?
#1: Initial revision
by
msh210
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2020-09-02T17:59:44Z (about 4 years ago)
hearing half of a double-long תרועה
_Shulchan Aruch_, _Orach Chayim_ 587:3, cites a view that if someone heard half of a double-long _t'ki'a_ (long _shofar_ blast) in a way that was effective but the other half in an invalid way, then he's not considered to have heard a _t'ki'a_ for fulfilling-the-command purposes. Does that apply to a _t'ru'a_ (series of mini-blasts) also? Suppose someone blew twice as many as needed, and someone else heard only half of them validly. On the one hand, it counts as one sound just as a _t'ki'a_ does, so perhaps one needs to hear its start and end just as he does a _t'ki'a_'s. On the other, since physically it's a series of short blasts, maybe hearing the start and end of each of those blasts is enough and one doesn't need to hear the start and end of the _t'ru'a_. Do any halachic sources discuss this?