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Q&A Putting a suffering animal out of its misery - Mitzvah, Reshut or prohibition?

It is a sin not to put an animal out of its suffering of pain and keep it alive, when it has a constructive purpose in its death e.g shechita for the sake of food. Bava Bathra 73b: ואמר רבה בר בר ...

posted 6y ago by user15464‭  ·  edited 4y ago by Monica Cellio‭

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#1: Post edited by user avatar Monica Cellio‭ · 2020-09-01T01:46:16Z (over 4 years ago)
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  • <p>It is a sin not to put an animal out of its suffering of pain and keep it alive, <strong>when it has a constructive purpose</strong> in its death e.g shechita for the sake of food.</p>
  • <blockquote>
  • <p>Bava Bathra 73b:<br>
  • ואמר רבה בר בר ×—× ×” זימנא חדא הוה קא אזלינן במדברא וחזינן הנהו אווזי דשמטי גדפייהו משמנייהו וקא נגדי נחלי דמשחא מתותייהו אמינא להו אית לן בגוייכו חלקא לעלמא דאתי חדא דלי גדפא וחדא דלי אטמא ×›×™ אתאי לקמיה דרבי אלעזר אמר לי עתידין ישראל ליתן עליהן את הדין<br>
  • In summary Rabba bar bar Chana went to the desert on his travels and saw the fat geese that were so fat when they lifted their wings oil flowed out. These were destined to be slaughtered for Tzadikim to eat, and Rabbi Elazar said that we will be brought to account on the geeses behalf, for delaying the end of days when they will be eaten. </p>
  • <p>Rashi:<br>
  • ליתן עליהם את הדין - שבחטאתם מתעכב משיח <strong>ויש להם צער בעלי חיים לאותן אווזים מחמת שומנן:</strong><br>
  • i.e the delay of Moshiach keeps them alive and causes these geese pain to move because they are so full of fat.</p>
  • <p>Shitta mekubetzet:עתידין ישראל ליתן עליהם את הדין. פירוש <strong>כשאוכלים אותם לעתיד לבוא מנכים להם מזכיותיהן</strong><br>
  • i.e we will lose our merits for the anguish we caused those geese to stay alive when Moshiach comes and we finally slaughter and eat the geese at the feast.</p>
  • </blockquote>
  • It is a sin not to put an animal out of its suffering of pain and keep it alive, **when it has a constructive purpose** in its death e.g shechita for the sake of food.
  • > Bava Bathra 73b:
  • ואמר רבה בר בר חנה זימנא חדא הוה קא אזלינן במדברא וחזינן הנהו אווזי דשמטי גדפייהו משמנייהו וקא נגדי נחלי דמשחא מתותייהו אמינא להו אית לן בגוייכו חלקא לעלמא דאתי חדא דלי גדפא וחדא דלי אטמא כי אתאי לקמיה דרבי אלעזר אמר לי עתידין ישראל ליתן עליהן את הדין
  • In summary Rabba bar bar Chana went to the desert on his travels and saw the fat geese that were so fat when they lifted their wings oil flowed out. These were destined to be slaughtered for Tzadikim to eat, and Rabbi Elazar said that we will be brought to account on the geeses behalf, for delaying the end of days when they will be eaten.
  • > Rashi:
  • ליתן עליהם את הדין - שבחטאתם מתעכב משיח **ויש להם צער בעלי חיים לאותן אווזים מחמת שומנן:**
  • i.e the delay of Moshiach keeps them alive and causes these geese pain to move because they are so full of fat.
  • > Shitta mekubetzet:עתידין ישראל ליתן עליהם את הדין. פירוש **כשאוכלים אותם לעתיד לבוא מנכים להם מזכיותיהן**
  • i.e we will lose our merits for the anguish we caused those geese to stay alive when Moshiach comes and we finally slaughter and eat the geese at the feast.