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I've heard a setting (by Debbie Friedman) of the song "Shalom Aleichem" that, in the last verse, says "shuvchem" instead of "tzeitchem" (recording, mixed group of singers). A rabbi who knew her to...
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DonielF
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2020-09-10T17:46:13Z (about 4 years ago)
<p>I've heard a setting (by Debbie Friedman) of the song "Shalom Aleichem" that, in the last verse, says "shuvchem" instead of "tzeitchem" (<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DtG8yv8lzIk" rel="nofollow noreferrer">recording, mixed group of singers</a>). A rabbi who knew her told me that the change is so, instead of <a href="https://judaism.stackexchange.com/a/44573/472">asking the malachim to leave as soon as they show up</a>, we instead ask them to return (again, next week). I was told that this is a chassidic tradition and not original to the composer, but nothing more specific. I don't have much experience with the chassidic community, but, for what it's worth, I haven't heard this change from Chabad the couple times I've been with them on a Friday night.</p><p>Is there a community that does this? If so, who? I know of <a href="https://judaism.stackexchange.com/questions/69940/shalom-aleichem-shuvchem-instead-of-tzeitchem#comment200767_69940">one family tradition to say "tzes'chem uvoachem l'shalom"</a>, so maybe there's a common source? </p>
- <p>I've heard a setting (by Debbie Friedman) of the song "Shalom Aleichem" that, in the last verse, says "shuvchem" instead of "tzeitchem" (<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DtG8yv8lzIk" rel="nofollow noreferrer">recording, mixed group of singers</a>). A rabbi who knew her told me that the change is so, instead of <a href="https://judaism.stackexchange.com/a/44573/472">asking the malachim to leave as soon as they show up</a>, we instead ask them to return (again, next week). I was told that this is a chassidic tradition and not original to the composer, but nothing more specific. I don't have much experience with the chassidic community, but, for what it's worth, I haven't heard this change from Chabad the couple times I've been with them on a Friday night.</p>
- <p>Is there a community that does this? If so, who? I know of <a href="https://judaism.stackexchange.com/questions/69940/shalom-aleichem-shuvchem-instead-of-tzeitchem#comment200767_69940">one family tradition to say "tzes'chem uvoachem l'shalom"</a>, so maybe there's a common source? </p>