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Q&A "for you are…" in the blessings of sh'mone esre

The weekday amida has thirteen request benedictions in the middle, according to the usual count. Some of these end, after their respective requests, with "כי אתה…‏", "for you are…". Here's the rund...

0 answers  ·  posted 3y ago by msh210‭  ·  edited 3y ago by msh210‭

#5: Post edited by user avatar msh210‭ · 2020-08-22T19:43:46Z (over 3 years ago)
fix an error
  • The weekday _amida_ has thirteen request benedictions in the middle, according to the usual count. *Some* of these end, after their respective requests, with "כי אתה&hellip;&rlm;", "for you are&hellip;". Here's the rundown, according to all currently-in-use Ashkenazic and Sephardic prayer books I've seen:
  • 1. knowledge &mdash; no "for you&hellip;" at the end
  • 2. return &mdash; no "for you&hellip;" at the end
  • 3. forgiveness &mdash; **yes** "for you&hellip;" at the end
  • 4. saving &mdash; **yes** "for you&hellip;" at the end
  • 5. healing &mdash; **yes** "for you&hellip;" at the end
  • 6. years &mdash; **yes** "for you&hellip;" at the end
  • 7. ingathering &mdash; no "for you&hellip;" at the end
  • 8. judgement &mdash; no "for you&hellip;" at the end
  • 9. wrongdoers &mdash; no "for you&hellip;" at the end
  • 10. rightdoers &mdash; no "for you&hellip;" at the end
  • 11. Jerusalem &mdash; no "for you&hellip;" at the end
  • 12. David &mdash; no "for you&hellip;" at the end
  • 13. prayer &mdash; This one is interesting. It has requests, "for you&hellip;", more requests, and **another** "for you&hellip;".
  • Why do the benedictions that have "for you are&hellip;" have it; those that don't, not; and that last one have it twice?
  • The weekday _amida_ has thirteen request benedictions in the middle, according to the usual count. *Some* of these end, after their respective requests, with "כי אתה&hellip;&rlm;", "for you are&hellip;". Here's the rundown, according to all currently-in-use Ashkenazic and Sephardic prayer books I've seen:
  • 1. knowledge &mdash; no "for you&hellip;" at the end
  • 2. return &mdash; no "for you&hellip;" at the end
  • 3. forgiveness &mdash; **yes** "for you&hellip;" at the end
  • 4. saving &mdash; **yes** "for you&hellip;" at the end
  • 5. healing &mdash; **yes** "for you&hellip;" at the end
  • 6. years &mdash; some versions have "for you&hellip;" at the end; others do not
  • 7. ingathering &mdash; no "for you&hellip;" at the end
  • 8. judgement &mdash; no "for you&hellip;" at the end
  • 9. wrongdoers &mdash; no "for you&hellip;" at the end
  • 10. rightdoers &mdash; no "for you&hellip;" at the end
  • 11. Jerusalem &mdash; no "for you&hellip;" at the end
  • 12. David &mdash; no "for you&hellip;" at the end
  • 13. prayer &mdash; This one is interesting. It has requests, "for you&hellip;", more requests, and **another** "for you&hellip;".
  • Why do the benedictions that have "for you are&hellip;" have it; those that don't, not; and, especially, that last one have it twice?
#4: Post edited by user avatar msh210‭ · 2020-08-20T16:39:19Z (over 3 years ago)
  • The weekday _amida_ has thirteen request benedictions in the middle, according to the usual count. *Some* of these end, after their respective requests, with "כי אתה&hellip;&rlm;", "for you are&hellip;". Here's the rundown, according to all Ashkenazic and Sephardic prayer books I've seen:
  • 1. knowledge &mdash; no "for you&hellip;" at the end
  • 2. return &mdash; no "for you&hellip;" at the end
  • 3. forgiveness &mdash; **yes** "for you&hellip;" at the end
  • 4. saving &mdash; **yes** "for you&hellip;" at the end
  • 5. healing &mdash; **yes** "for you&hellip;" at the end
  • 6. years &mdash; **yes** "for you&hellip;" at the end
  • 7. ingathering &mdash; no "for you&hellip;" at the end
  • 8. judgement &mdash; no "for you&hellip;" at the end
  • 9. wrongdoers &mdash; no "for you&hellip;" at the end
  • 10. rightdoers &mdash; no "for you&hellip;" at the end
  • 11. Jerusalem &mdash; no "for you&hellip;" at the end
  • 12. David &mdash; no "for you&hellip;" at the end
  • 13. prayer &mdash; This one is interesting. It has requests, "for you&hellip;", more requests, and **another** "for you&hellip;".
  • Why do the benedictions that have "for you are&hellip;" have it; those that don't, not; and that last one have it twice?
  • The weekday _amida_ has thirteen request benedictions in the middle, according to the usual count. *Some* of these end, after their respective requests, with "כי אתה&hellip;&rlm;", "for you are&hellip;". Here's the rundown, according to all currently-in-use Ashkenazic and Sephardic prayer books I've seen:
  • 1. knowledge &mdash; no "for you&hellip;" at the end
  • 2. return &mdash; no "for you&hellip;" at the end
  • 3. forgiveness &mdash; **yes** "for you&hellip;" at the end
  • 4. saving &mdash; **yes** "for you&hellip;" at the end
  • 5. healing &mdash; **yes** "for you&hellip;" at the end
  • 6. years &mdash; **yes** "for you&hellip;" at the end
  • 7. ingathering &mdash; no "for you&hellip;" at the end
  • 8. judgement &mdash; no "for you&hellip;" at the end
  • 9. wrongdoers &mdash; no "for you&hellip;" at the end
  • 10. rightdoers &mdash; no "for you&hellip;" at the end
  • 11. Jerusalem &mdash; no "for you&hellip;" at the end
  • 12. David &mdash; no "for you&hellip;" at the end
  • 13. prayer &mdash; This one is interesting. It has requests, "for you&hellip;", more requests, and **another** "for you&hellip;".
  • Why do the benedictions that have "for you are&hellip;" have it; those that don't, not; and that last one have it twice?
#3: Post edited by user avatar msh210‭ · 2020-08-20T16:38:50Z (over 3 years ago)
  • The weekday _amida_ has thirteen request benedictions in the middle, according to the usual count. *Some* of these end, after their respective requests, with "כי אתה&hellip;&rlm;", "for you are&hellip;". Here's the rundown:
  • 1. knowledge &mdash; no "for you&hellip;" at the end
  • 2. return &mdash; no "for you&hellip;" at the end
  • 3. forgiveness &mdash; **yes** "for you&hellip;" at the end
  • 4. saving &mdash; **yes** "for you&hellip;" at the end
  • 5. healing &mdash; **yes** "for you&hellip;" at the end
  • 6. years &mdash; **yes** "for you&hellip;" at the end
  • 7. ingathering &mdash; no "for you&hellip;" at the end
  • 8. judgement &mdash; no "for you&hellip;" at the end
  • 9. wrongdoers &mdash; no "for you&hellip;" at the end
  • 10. rightdoers &mdash; no "for you&hellip;" at the end
  • 11. Jerusalem &mdash; no "for you&hellip;" at the end
  • 12. David &mdash; no "for you&hellip;" at the end
  • 13. prayer &mdash; This one is interesting. It has requests, "for you&hellip;", more requests, and **another** "for you&hellip;".
  • Why do the benedictions that have "for you are&hellip;" have it; those that don't, not; and that last one have it twice?
  • The weekday _amida_ has thirteen request benedictions in the middle, according to the usual count. *Some* of these end, after their respective requests, with "כי אתה&hellip;&rlm;", "for you are&hellip;". Here's the rundown, according to all Ashkenazic and Sephardic prayer books I've seen:
  • 1. knowledge &mdash; no "for you&hellip;" at the end
  • 2. return &mdash; no "for you&hellip;" at the end
  • 3. forgiveness &mdash; **yes** "for you&hellip;" at the end
  • 4. saving &mdash; **yes** "for you&hellip;" at the end
  • 5. healing &mdash; **yes** "for you&hellip;" at the end
  • 6. years &mdash; **yes** "for you&hellip;" at the end
  • 7. ingathering &mdash; no "for you&hellip;" at the end
  • 8. judgement &mdash; no "for you&hellip;" at the end
  • 9. wrongdoers &mdash; no "for you&hellip;" at the end
  • 10. rightdoers &mdash; no "for you&hellip;" at the end
  • 11. Jerusalem &mdash; no "for you&hellip;" at the end
  • 12. David &mdash; no "for you&hellip;" at the end
  • 13. prayer &mdash; This one is interesting. It has requests, "for you&hellip;", more requests, and **another** "for you&hellip;".
  • Why do the benedictions that have "for you are&hellip;" have it; those that don't, not; and that last one have it twice?
#2: Post edited by user avatar msh210‭ · 2020-08-19T21:50:13Z (over 3 years ago)
better
  • The weekday _amida_ has thirteen request benedictions in the middle, according to the usual count. These make requests. *Some* of them then end with "כי אתה&hellip;&rlm;", "for you are&hellip;". Here's the rundown:
  • 1. knowledge &mdash; no "for you&hellip;" at the end
  • 2. return &mdash; no "for you&hellip;" at the end
  • 3. forgiveness &mdash; **yes** "for you&hellip;" at the end
  • 4. saving &mdash; **yes** "for you&hellip;" at the end
  • 5. healing &mdash; **yes** "for you&hellip;" at the end
  • 6. years &mdash; **yes** "for you&hellip;" at the end
  • 7. ingathering &mdash; no "for you&hellip;" at the end
  • 8. judgement &mdash; no "for you&hellip;" at the end
  • 9. wrongdoers &mdash; no "for you&hellip;" at the end
  • 10. rightdoers &mdash; no "for you&hellip;" at the end
  • 11. Jerusalem &mdash; no "for you&hellip;" at the end
  • 12. David &mdash; no "for you&hellip;" at the end
  • 13. prayer &mdash; This one is interesting. It has requests, "for you&hellip;", more requests, and **another** "for you&hellip;".
  • Why do the benedictions that have "for you are&hellip;" have it; those that don't, not; and that last one have it twice?
  • The weekday _amida_ has thirteen request benedictions in the middle, according to the usual count. *Some* of these end, after their respective requests, with "כי אתה&hellip;&rlm;", "for you are&hellip;". Here's the rundown:
  • 1. knowledge &mdash; no "for you&hellip;" at the end
  • 2. return &mdash; no "for you&hellip;" at the end
  • 3. forgiveness &mdash; **yes** "for you&hellip;" at the end
  • 4. saving &mdash; **yes** "for you&hellip;" at the end
  • 5. healing &mdash; **yes** "for you&hellip;" at the end
  • 6. years &mdash; **yes** "for you&hellip;" at the end
  • 7. ingathering &mdash; no "for you&hellip;" at the end
  • 8. judgement &mdash; no "for you&hellip;" at the end
  • 9. wrongdoers &mdash; no "for you&hellip;" at the end
  • 10. rightdoers &mdash; no "for you&hellip;" at the end
  • 11. Jerusalem &mdash; no "for you&hellip;" at the end
  • 12. David &mdash; no "for you&hellip;" at the end
  • 13. prayer &mdash; This one is interesting. It has requests, "for you&hellip;", more requests, and **another** "for you&hellip;".
  • Why do the benedictions that have "for you are&hellip;" have it; those that don't, not; and that last one have it twice?
#1: Initial revision by user avatar msh210‭ · 2020-08-19T21:47:58Z (over 3 years ago)
"for you are…" in the blessings of sh'mone esre
The weekday _amida_ has thirteen request benedictions in the middle, according to the usual count. These make requests. *Some* of them then end with "כי אתה&hellip;&rlm;", "for you are&hellip;". Here's the rundown:

1. knowledge &mdash; no "for you&hellip;" at the end
2. return &mdash; no "for you&hellip;" at the end
3. forgiveness &mdash; **yes** "for you&hellip;" at the end
4. saving &mdash; **yes** "for you&hellip;" at the end
5. healing &mdash; **yes** "for you&hellip;" at the end
6. years &mdash; **yes** "for you&hellip;" at the end
7. ingathering &mdash; no "for you&hellip;" at the end
8. judgement &mdash; no "for you&hellip;" at the end
9. wrongdoers &mdash; no "for you&hellip;" at the end
10. rightdoers &mdash; no "for you&hellip;" at the end
11. Jerusalem &mdash; no "for you&hellip;" at the end
12. David &mdash; no "for you&hellip;" at the end
13. prayer &mdash; This one is interesting. It has requests, "for you&hellip;", more requests, and **another** "for you&hellip;".

Why do the benedictions that have "for you are&hellip;" have it; those that don't, not; and that last one have it twice?