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Q&A What happened to the end of the Aleph-Beis in Kol Mekadesh?

According to the website of the National Library of Israel, indeed there used to be another stanza which appears in Machzor Vitri: קדשם במצותיך יטהרם כעצם השמים לטוהר. רוחך (תנחומו כבבהמה) [תנחמו ...

posted 4y ago by Harel13‭  ·  edited 4y ago by ploni‭

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#3: Post edited by user avatar ploni‭ · 2020-09-16T05:17:31Z (about 4 years ago)
  • According to the [website](https://web.nli.org.il/sites/nlis/he/song/pages/song.aspx?songid=105#3,138,3318,1678) of the National Library of Israel, indeed there used to be another stanza which appears in [Machzor Vitri](https://www.sefaria.org.il/Machzor_Vitry%2C_Order_of_Shabbat.159?lang=he):
  • >**קדשם** במצותיך יטהרם כעצם השמים לטוהר. **רוחך** (תנחומו כבבהמה) [תנחמו כבהמה] תרד בבקעה מן ההר: **שבתיהם** **תשכנם** בנחלת הסהר. כנחלים נטיו. וכגנות עלי נהר: אחרת:
  • It is unclear why exactly the final stanza was dropped and replaced. According to [Wikipedia](https://he.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D7%9B%D7%9C_%D7%9E%D7%A7%D7%93%D7%A9_%D7%A9%D7%91%D7%99%D7%A2%D7%99), there's a legend that says that the last stanza was dropped because the songwriter died before completing the song and those lines were added by a different person.
  • Also according to Wikipedia, Rabbi Avraham Abba of Pittsburgh added a different final stanza:
  • >**קדושים** ישראל מאז ולעולמים, **רצים** למגדלך ובשמך נשגבים, **שבתות** קדשך מייחדים ומענגים ובך נדבקים, **תיקון** השלם ישיגו בחיינו בחסד וברחמים ובקרב הימים
  • According to the [website](https://web.nli.org.il/sites/nlis/he/song/pages/song.aspx?songid=105#3,138,3318,1678) of the National Library of Israel, indeed there used to be another stanza which appears in [Machzor Vitri](https://www.sefaria.org.il/Machzor_Vitry%2C_Order_of_Shabbat.159?lang=he):
  • >**קדשם** במצותיך יטהרם כעצם השמים לטוהר. **רוחך** (תנחומו כבבהמה) [תנחמו כבהמה] תרד בבקעה מן ההר: **שבתיהם** **תשכנם** בנחלת הסהר. כנחלים נטיו. וכגנות עלי נהר: אחרת:&rlm;
  • It is unclear why exactly the final stanza was dropped and replaced. According to [Wikipedia](https://he.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D7%9B%D7%9C_%D7%9E%D7%A7%D7%93%D7%A9_%D7%A9%D7%91%D7%99%D7%A2%D7%99), there's a legend that says that the last stanza was dropped because the songwriter died before completing the song and those lines were added by a different person.
  • Also according to Wikipedia, Rabbi Avraham Abba of Pittsburgh added a different final stanza:
  • >**קדושים** ישראל מאז ולעולמים, **רצים** למגדלך ובשמך נשגבים, **שבתות** קדשך מייחדים ומענגים ובך נדבקים, **תיקון** השלם ישיגו בחיינו בחסד וברחמים ובקרב הימים
#2: Post edited by user avatar Harel13‭ · 2020-08-17T07:08:13Z (over 4 years ago)
  • According to the [website](https://web.nli.org.il/sites/nlis/he/song/pages/song.aspx?songid=105#3,138,3318,1678) of the National Library of Israel, indeed there used to be another stanza which appears in [Machzor Vitri](https://www.sefaria.org.il/Machzor_Vitry%2C_Order_of_Shabbat.159?lang=he):
  • >קדשם במצותיך יטהרם כעצם השמים לטוהר. רוחך (תנחומו כבבהמה) [תנחמו כבהמה] תרד בבקעה מן ההר: שבתיהם תשכנם בנחלת הסהר. כנחלים נטיו. וכגנות עלי נהר: אחרת:
  • It is unclear why exactly the final stanza was dropped and replaced. According to [Wikipedia](https://he.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D7%9B%D7%9C_%D7%9E%D7%A7%D7%93%D7%A9_%D7%A9%D7%91%D7%99%D7%A2%D7%99), there's a legend that says that the last stanza was dropped because the songwriter died before completing the song and those lines were added by a different person.
  • Also according to Wikipedia, Rabbi Avraham Abba of Pittsburgh added a different final stanza:
  • >קדושים ישראל מאז ולעולמים, רצים למגדלך ובשמך נשגבים, שבתות קדשך מייחדים ומענגים ובך נדבקים, תיקון השלם ישיגו בחיינו בחסד וברחמים ובקרב הימים
  • According to the [website](https://web.nli.org.il/sites/nlis/he/song/pages/song.aspx?songid=105#3,138,3318,1678) of the National Library of Israel, indeed there used to be another stanza which appears in [Machzor Vitri](https://www.sefaria.org.il/Machzor_Vitry%2C_Order_of_Shabbat.159?lang=he):
  • >**קדשם** במצותיך יטהרם כעצם השמים לטוהר. **רוחך** (תנחומו כבבהמה) [תנחמו כבהמה] תרד בבקעה מן ההר: **שבתיהם** **תשכנם** בנחלת הסהר. כנחלים נטיו. וכגנות עלי נהר: אחרת:
  • It is unclear why exactly the final stanza was dropped and replaced. According to [Wikipedia](https://he.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D7%9B%D7%9C_%D7%9E%D7%A7%D7%93%D7%A9_%D7%A9%D7%91%D7%99%D7%A2%D7%99), there's a legend that says that the last stanza was dropped because the songwriter died before completing the song and those lines were added by a different person.
  • Also according to Wikipedia, Rabbi Avraham Abba of Pittsburgh added a different final stanza:
  • >**קדושים** ישראל מאז ולעולמים, **רצים** למגדלך ובשמך נשגבים, **שבתות** קדשך מייחדים ומענגים ובך נדבקים, **תיקון** השלם ישיגו בחיינו בחסד וברחמים ובקרב הימים
#1: Initial revision by user avatar Harel13‭ · 2020-08-17T06:36:09Z (over 4 years ago)
According to the [website](https://web.nli.org.il/sites/nlis/he/song/pages/song.aspx?songid=105#3,138,3318,1678) of the National Library of Israel, indeed there used to be another stanza which appears in [Machzor Vitri](https://www.sefaria.org.il/Machzor_Vitry%2C_Order_of_Shabbat.159?lang=he):
>קדשם במצותיך יטהרם כעצם השמים לטוהר. רוחך (תנחומו כבבהמה) [תנחמו כבהמה] תרד בבקעה מן ההר: שבתיהם תשכנם בנחלת הסהר. כנחלים נטיו. וכגנות עלי נהר: אחרת:

It is unclear why exactly the final stanza was dropped and replaced. According to [Wikipedia](https://he.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D7%9B%D7%9C_%D7%9E%D7%A7%D7%93%D7%A9_%D7%A9%D7%91%D7%99%D7%A2%D7%99), there's a legend that says that the last stanza was dropped because the songwriter died before completing the song and those lines were added by a different person.

Also according to Wikipedia, Rabbi Avraham Abba of Pittsburgh added a different final stanza:

>קדושים ישראל מאז ולעולמים, רצים למגדלך ובשמך נשגבים, שבתות קדשך מייחדים ומענגים ובך נדבקים, תיקון השלם ישיגו בחיינו בחסד וברחמים ובקרב הימים