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Q&A Is it preferable to not say Mincha early on a fast day?

Regarding your concern about Anenu for the Ashkenazi practice of omitting it in the morning lest you come to eat, the Magen Avraham (Orach Chaim 565:3) felt that was not a problem even at an early ...

posted 4y ago by AA ‭  ·  edited 4y ago by Isaac Moses‭

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#2: Post edited by user avatar Isaac Moses‭ · 2020-07-31T13:38:30Z (over 4 years ago)
Sefaria links for OC
  • Regarding your concern about Anenu for the Ashkenazi practice of omitting it in the morning lest you come to eat, the Magen Avraham (OC 565:3) felt that was not a problem even at an early mincha because Rama ruled (OC 562:1) that Anenu can be said (in certain circumstances) on a partial fast day. Here you have at least fasted most of the day so saying Anenu can't be construed as lying.
  • However, there is long precedent for specifically praying mincha at the end of the day on fast days (see Taanit 26b and Megillah 30b). It seems it was seen as doubling as a quasi-neilah prayer at the end of the day.
  • (Practically there may be other considerations at play, like ability to concentrate late into a fast day and, on the Ninth of Av, doing certain activities before donning your phylacteries.)
  • Regarding your concern about Anenu for the Ashkenazi practice of omitting it in the morning lest you come to eat, the Magen Avraham ([Orach Chaim 565:3](https://www.sefaria.org/Shulchan_Arukh%2C_Orach_Chayim.565.3?lang=bi&with=Magen%20Avraham&lang2=en)) felt that was not a problem even at an early mincha because Rama ruled (Orach Chaim 562:1) that Anenu can be said (in certain circumstances) on a partial fast day. Here you have at least fasted most of the day so saying Anenu can't be construed as lying.
  • However, there is long precedent for specifically praying mincha at the end of the day on fast days (see Taanit 26b and Megillah 30b). It seems it was seen as doubling as a quasi-neilah prayer at the end of the day.
  • (Practically there may be other considerations at play, like ability to concentrate late into a fast day and, on the Ninth of Av, doing certain activities before donning your phylacteries.)
#1: Initial revision by user avatar AA ‭ · 2020-07-31T13:05:10Z (over 4 years ago)
Regarding your concern about Anenu for the Ashkenazi practice of omitting it in the morning lest you come to eat, the Magen Avraham (OC 565:3) felt that was not a problem even at an early mincha because Rama ruled (OC 562:1) that Anenu can be said (in certain circumstances) on a partial fast day. Here you have at least fasted most of the day so saying Anenu can't be construed as lying.

However, there is long precedent for specifically praying mincha at the end of the day on fast days (see Taanit 26b and Megillah 30b). It seems it was seen as doubling as a quasi-neilah prayer at the end of the day.

(Practically there may be other considerations at play, like ability to concentrate late into a fast day and, on the Ninth of Av, doing certain activities before donning your phylacteries.)