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Q&A What are the issues in talking into a mic that was accidentally turned on on Shabbat?

There is a broad range of opinions as to the extent of the prohibition, but the consensus opinion for any activity involving electric current that achieves a tangible, desired outcome is that it wi...

posted 4y ago by PinnyM‭  ·  edited 4y ago by PinnyM‭

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#6: Post edited by user avatar PinnyM‭ · 2020-06-29T14:22:31Z (almost 4 years ago)
  • There is a broad range of opinions as to the extent of the prohibition, but the consensus opinion for any activity involving electric current that achieves a tangible, desired outcome is that it will be prohibited (unless of course, it falls into some categorical exception, e.g. shvus deshvus bemakom mitzvah). Any interaction that would be considered normal use of the device would be included, even if it didn't include physical contact (e.g. use by voice or motion).
  • The halacha may change significantly when some of these aspects are missing. If the outcome is intangible, or if it is undesirable (or even indifferent) , or if the interaction is not normal usage, that could conceivably make the activity permitted. But the devil is very much in the details of each specific case.
  • This is an extremely complex topic that touches on many factors of shabbat law, and can't really be done justice in a few paragraphs. For those looking to delve further into the finer details, here are some sources that may provide related background information:
  • - https://rabbimanning.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/Electronic-Mitzvot-Hearing-Aids-and-Shabbat.pdf
  • - https://jewishlink.news/features/15141-the-use-of-baby-monitors-on-shabbat-and-yom-tov
  • There is a broad range of opinions as to the extent of the prohibition, but the consensus opinion for any activity involving electric current that achieves a tangible, desired outcome is that it will be prohibited (unless of course, it falls into some categorical exception, e.g. shvus deshvus bemakom mitzvah). Any interaction that would be considered normal use of the device would be included, even if it didn't include physical contact (e.g. use by voice or motion).
  • The halacha may change significantly when some of these aspects are missing. If the outcome is intangible, or if it is undesirable (or even indifferent) , or if the interaction is not normal usage, that could conceivably make the activity permitted. But the devil is very much in the details of each specific case.
  • This is an extremely complex topic that touches on many factors of shabbat law, and can't really be done justice in a few paragraphs. For those looking to delve further into the finer details, here are some sources that may provide related background information:
  • - https://rabbimanning.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/Electronic-Mitzvot-Hearing-Aids-and-Shabbat.pdf
  • - https://jewishlink.news/features/15141-the-use-of-baby-monitors-on-shabbat-and-yom-tov
  • - https://thehalacha.com/wp-content/uploads/Vol13Issue5.pdf
#5: Post edited by user avatar PinnyM‭ · 2020-06-29T14:21:47Z (almost 4 years ago)
  • There is a broad range of opinions as to the extent of the prohibition, but the consensus opinion for any activity involving electric current that achieves a tangible, desired outcome is that it will be prohibited (unless of course, it falls into some categorical exception, e.g. shvus deshvus bemakom mitzvah). Any interaction that would be considered normal use of the device would be included, even if it didn't include physical contact (e.g. use by voice or motion).
  • The halacha may change significantly when some of these aspects are missing. If the outcome is intangible, or if it is undesirable (or even indifferent) , or if the interaction is not normal usage, that could conceivably make the activity permitted. But the devil is very much in the details of each specific case.
  • This is an extremely complex topic that touches on many factors of shabbat law, and can't really be done justice in a few paragraphs. I'll post back with several sources, for those looking to delve further into the finer details.
  • There is a broad range of opinions as to the extent of the prohibition, but the consensus opinion for any activity involving electric current that achieves a tangible, desired outcome is that it will be prohibited (unless of course, it falls into some categorical exception, e.g. shvus deshvus bemakom mitzvah). Any interaction that would be considered normal use of the device would be included, even if it didn't include physical contact (e.g. use by voice or motion).
  • The halacha may change significantly when some of these aspects are missing. If the outcome is intangible, or if it is undesirable (or even indifferent) , or if the interaction is not normal usage, that could conceivably make the activity permitted. But the devil is very much in the details of each specific case.
  • This is an extremely complex topic that touches on many factors of shabbat law, and can't really be done justice in a few paragraphs. For those looking to delve further into the finer details, here are some sources that may provide related background information:
  • - https://rabbimanning.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/Electronic-Mitzvot-Hearing-Aids-and-Shabbat.pdf
  • - https://jewishlink.news/features/15141-the-use-of-baby-monitors-on-shabbat-and-yom-tov
#4: Post edited by user avatar PinnyM‭ · 2020-06-28T22:27:14Z (almost 4 years ago)
  • There is a broad range of opinions as to the extent of the prohibition, but the consensus opinion for any activity involving electric current that achieves a tangible, desired outcome is that it will be prohibited (unless of course, it falls into some categorical exception, e.g. shvus deshvus bemakom mitzvah). Any interaction that would be considered normal use of the device would be included, even if it didn't include physical contact (e.g. use by voice or motion).
  • This is an extremely complex topic that touches on many factors of shabbat law, and can't really be done justice in a few paragraphs. I'll post back with several sources, for those looking to delve further into the finer details.
  • There is a broad range of opinions as to the extent of the prohibition, but the consensus opinion for any activity involving electric current that achieves a tangible, desired outcome is that it will be prohibited (unless of course, it falls into some categorical exception, e.g. shvus deshvus bemakom mitzvah). Any interaction that would be considered normal use of the device would be included, even if it didn't include physical contact (e.g. use by voice or motion).
  • The halacha may change significantly when some of these aspects are missing. If the outcome is intangible, or if it is undesirable (or even indifferent) , or if the interaction is not normal usage, that could conceivably make the activity permitted. But the devil is very much in the details of each specific case.
  • This is an extremely complex topic that touches on many factors of shabbat law, and can't really be done justice in a few paragraphs. I'll post back with several sources, for those looking to delve further into the finer details.
#3: Post edited by user avatar PinnyM‭ · 2020-06-28T22:21:09Z (almost 4 years ago)
  • There is a broad range of opinions as to the extent of the prohibition, but the consensus opinion for any activity involving electric current that achieves a tangible, desired outcome is that it will be prohibited (unless of course, it falls into some categorical exception, e.g. shvus deshvus bemakom mitzvah).
  • This is an extremely complex topic that touches on many factors of shabbat law, and can't really be done justice in a few paragraphs. I'll post back with several sources, for those looking to delve further into the finer details.
  • There is a broad range of opinions as to the extent of the prohibition, but the consensus opinion for any activity involving electric current that achieves a tangible, desired outcome is that it will be prohibited (unless of course, it falls into some categorical exception, e.g. shvus deshvus bemakom mitzvah). Any interaction that would be considered normal use of the device would be included, even if it didn't include physical contact (e.g. use by voice or motion).
  • This is an extremely complex topic that touches on many factors of shabbat law, and can't really be done justice in a few paragraphs. I'll post back with several sources, for those looking to delve further into the finer details.
#2: Post edited by user avatar PinnyM‭ · 2020-06-28T22:01:32Z (almost 4 years ago)
  • There is a broad range of opinions as to the extent of the prohibition, but the consensus opinion for any activity involving electric current that achieves a tangible, desired outcome is that it will be prohibited (unless of course, it falls into some categorical exception, e.g. shvus deshvus bemakom mitzvah).
  • This is an extremely complex topic that touches on many factors of shabbat law, and can't really be done justice in a few paragraphs. I'll post back with several sources, for those looking to delve further into the fiber details.
  • There is a broad range of opinions as to the extent of the prohibition, but the consensus opinion for any activity involving electric current that achieves a tangible, desired outcome is that it will be prohibited (unless of course, it falls into some categorical exception, e.g. shvus deshvus bemakom mitzvah).
  • This is an extremely complex topic that touches on many factors of shabbat law, and can't really be done justice in a few paragraphs. I'll post back with several sources, for those looking to delve further into the finer details.
#1: Initial revision by user avatar PinnyM‭ · 2020-06-28T22:01:20Z (almost 4 years ago)
There is a broad range of opinions as to the extent of the prohibition, but the consensus opinion for any activity involving electric current that achieves a tangible, desired outcome is that it will  be prohibited (unless of course, it falls into some categorical exception, e.g. shvus deshvus bemakom mitzvah). 

This is an extremely complex topic that touches on many factors of shabbat law, and can't really be done justice in a few paragraphs. I'll post back with several sources, for those looking to delve further into the fiber details.