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Comments on Why does the Torah mention Yosef in relation to Menashe but not Ephraim in the story of the spies?

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Why does the Torah mention Yosef in relation to Menashe but not Ephraim in the story of the spies?

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In the beginning of Parshat Sh'lach, when listing the spies from each tribe, the Torah gives Ephraim like every other tribe (Bamidbar 13:8):

למטה אפרים הושע בן-נון

From the tribe of Ephraim, Hoshea the son of Nun

However, a few verses later (Bamidbar 13:11), when discussing Menashe, it specifically mentions Yosef (Menashe and Ephraim's father):

למטה יוסף למטה מנשה גדי בן-סוסי

From the tribe of Yosef, from the tribe of Menashe, Gadi the son of Susi

Why does the Torah specify that Menashe is part of Yosef, but doesn't do the same for Ephraim?

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rosends‭ wrote over 3 years ago · edited over 3 years ago

It mentions both -- it introduces the tribe of yosef and then goes down a generation, first the older some menashe, then the younger son ephraim. It only needs to introduce the Yosef tribe 1 time

Mithical‭ wrote over 3 years ago

@rosends - Ephraim is mentioned first, without a mention of Yosef, and only later are Yosef and Menashe mentioned.

robev‭ wrote over 3 years ago

I believe Hadar zekeinim, daas zekeneim, Moshav zekeinim and chizkuni address this. If I have time I'll post them.