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Why is Shlissel Challah permissible?

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In ancient times, the Roman pagan holiday of Saturnalia included a practice of baking some type of cake with a fava bean hidden inside, with a prize for whoever got the piece containing the bean. In medieval times, the prize often included being the ruler of the region for the year, hence why this practice is called the “King’s Cake.”

Over time, the custom became distorted by its adoption into Christianity: rather than a winter custom, the practice was near-universally shifted to the spring and practiced during Epiphany (during Mardi Gras), the day believed to be the conception of their Messiah. Further, the specific object which was hidden (called a fève, after the original fava beans used) changed over time and locale, broadening to whatever fruits were in-season (almonds, dried fig pits), candies, figurines, and...keys.

It seems pretty straightforward to suggest that the Jewish custom of shlissel challah, where on the first Sabbath after Passover a key is baked in the challah (or in a more recent take, shaping the challah itself as a key), originated from this practice.

The Torah commands us not to emulate the practices of the idolatrous nations (Leviticus 18:3 et. al.; Rambam, Hil. Avodah Zarah 11:1ff). Why would Shlissel Challah be permissible?

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AA ‭ wrote almost 4 years ago · edited almost 4 years ago

Because it isn't permissible? This seems like a loaded question. I've never actually been served this sort of avoda zara (apparently it's not as widespread as its worshippers like to insinuate) but if I was I'd be sure not to eat it.

Harel13‭ wrote almost 4 years ago

Or...the custom didn't come from that?

DonielF‭ wrote almost 4 years ago

@Harel13 Even if you're correct, it's not clear to me that a practice which independently evolved, but which bears striking resemblance to an idolatrous practice, is permissible. For example, playing music in shul during davening (let's assume not on Shabbos itself, or else on Shabbos by a non-Jew so as to be a שבות דשבות לצורך ציבור) was still forbidden by orthodox Enlightenment-era Rabbis on the grounds that it was חוקת הגוים.

DonielF‭ wrote almost 4 years ago

@AA I would be inclined to agree with you. I guess I'm asking, how do those who do practice this service defend the practice?

manassehkatz‭ wrote almost 4 years ago

I thought that playing music in Shul was forbidden because that was limited to the Beis Hamikdash, or to the time when there is a Beis Hamikdash - similar to other limitations on music (which vary quite a bit depending on who you ask...)

DonielF‭ wrote almost 4 years ago

@manasseh I have not heard of such a psak but would not be surprised if someone suggests that. Playing music in general may be prohibited for the reasons you cite (source being בשיר לא ישתו יין), but generally people who have even heard of the halacha seem to follow the leniency of the Rema (originally Rashi) that it is only forbidden while eating, with the exceptions of weddings, Shabbos, and other "musics of mitzvos."

AYC‭ wrote almost 4 years ago

Apart from the chukas hagoy question, why should it be allowed to bake a key into bread to improve the chances of good parnossoh - it contradicts our faith in Who controls parnossoh.

ploni‭ wrote over 3 years ago

When I was a kid we used to do it but then my parents found out its source and haven’t done it since.